The Epoc and Your Next Job Interview


Imagine you are waiting to be interviewed for a job that you really want.  You’d probably be nervous, fingers drumming the table, eyes restlessly staring around the room.  The door opens and a man appears, he is wearing a lab coat and he is holding an EEG headset in both hands.  He places the set on your head and says “Your interview starts now.”

This Philip K Dick scenario became reality for intern applicants at the offices of TBWA who are an advertising firm based in Istanbul.  And thankfully a camera was present to capture this WTF moment for each candidate so this video could be uploaded to Vimeo.

The rationale for the exercise is quite clear.  The company want to appoint people who are passionate about advertising, so working with a consultancy, they devised a test where candidates watch a series of acclaimed ads and the Epoc is used to measure their levels of ‘passion’ ‘love’ and ‘excitement’ in a scientific and numeric way.  Those who exhibit the greatest passion for adverts get the job (this is the narrative of the movie; in reality one suspects/hopes they were interviewed as well).

I’ve seen at least one other blog post that expressed some reservations about the process.

Let’s take a deep breath because I have a whole shopping list of issues with this exercise.

First of all, there is very little here that is truly scientific, wearing a lab coat is no substitute for properly controlling your audio-visual material if you want to assess participants’ emotional responses.  In this case, a series of ‘globally acclaimed advertisements’ were selected, if the candidates had seen them before (which is likely) their responses to the material would be reduced due to familiarity and habituation.  The logic of greater reactivity = greater passion/excitment/love only holds if you can control for prior exposure.  Ironically this process favours those who hadn’t seen the globally acclaimed ads before – and if they were truly passionate about advertising, they should have.  And given the complexity of the psycho-physiological inference, you need to be careful how you label these data.  I haven’t seen any published research on EEG signatures for passion or love – my assumption is that the headset measures activation of the facial muscles and proportion of power in the higher bands of the EEG (>30Hz) vs. lower bands (<12Hz).

The responses from the signals are analysed using the Affectiv suite developed by Emotiv, which is propriety software.  There is no published evidence to validate this “black box” software.  Based upon casual inspection, it would seem to incorporate facial EMG into the analysis as well as traditional EEG bands, but that is the only thing I (and anyone else outside of Emotiv) can say about the software.  The lack of validation in the public domain is problematic (I’ve written about this before here) – especially if the technology is being used to feed into decisions that have huge implications for individuals, as I believe is the case here.

The individual from the consultancy firm who appears in the video is described as a “neurotechnology expert.”  This seems to mean that he has sufficient expertise to use an Epoc for data collection and the propriety software to analyse the resulting data.  Anyone who has used an Epoc will know that the set-up is straightforward and the data is pre-categorised and easy to read from a spreadsheet.  After all, it is designed to be used by non-experts in psychophysiological techniques.  One drawback with the “brainwaves for everyone” approach that characterises the technology produced by Emotiv, NeuroSky etc. is that users are totally dependent on propriety software – and if that software has not been validated in the public domain, they are placing total faith in the R&D branch of the company.  Speaking personally, I am all for democratising specialised measures and methods in the name of technology development, but reliance on propriety software is a barrier for the development of genuine expertise with the measures.  Of course, raw data is available from the commercial headsets for people to use but the learning process to progress from propriety software to working with raw data is not supported, and therefore, only those who already have the necessary skills tend to use the raw data.

I also wondered if any candidates were given the option of not participating in the Epoc part of the interview process.  When someone is applying for a job, they want to please but there is a privacy issue here that ought to be mentioned.

If this is the shape of things to come as commercial EEG headsets become more widely used, it is a cause for deep concern.  The technology and resulting data look like objective, scientific evidence but the absence of validation and proper control should prevent their application in areas with real-world consequences.  I also think there is enormous potential to exploit the basic naivety of the general public (see the comments made in the movie by the unfortunate interns) using this kind of technology.  Worse of all, I can see a technology that offers enormous positives in terms of new modes of interaction or self-awareness being exploited as a variant of the polygraph – and that betrays an absolute lack of imagination and vision.

If you are unfortunate enough to be assessed in a future job interview using an EEG headset, my advice is employ the techniques known to fool the polygraph in order to subvert the procedure:

  • bite the inside of the mouth to vary activation levels
  • grind your teeth to create noise
  • selectively frown and smile to display negative and positive emotions respectively
  • close your eyes to enhance low frequency EEG bands

Contrary to what the polygraph technologists would have you believe, people remain fundamentally in control of their own biological signals.


2 thoughts on “The Epoc and Your Next Job Interview

  1. Dick

    Nice blog Steve,

    I’ll in particular keep your strategies to fool the system in mind— Anyway, perhaps you disagree -being a Professor of Psychophysiology- I think the public and our peers put too much trust in these “objective” measures!

    1. Steve Fairclough Post author

      Good to hear from you Dick. As you might guess, it’s because I’m a Prof of Psychophysiology that I think these methods are oversold to the public

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